Autistic Moms Chatting
This marks the first edition of Autistic Moms Chatting from Affect Autism. This episode features two autistic mothers and autistic advocates living in the United Kingdom. Autistic Moms Chatting is an addition to the usual podcast episodes.
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This Episode’s Guests
Dr. Angela Kingdon is an American late-diagnosed autistic mother of a young adult son who is currently in college in the United States. Angela now lives in England and hosts The Autistic Culture Podcast, which is one of my favourites to listen to. Dr. Kingdon started her career as a ghostwriter in 1994. She has provided authors with book strategy, accountability coaching, self-publishing, and marketing services as well as helping people who want to publish traditionally to find a literary agent and get a book deal for over 30 years.
Angela has worked on over 2,000 books and helped authors sell over 50 million combined books. She now focuses on working with other Autistic people on books about their interests, Autism memoirs, and their professional work. She also works with a very select neurotypical people who have expertise in affirming care for neurodivergent populations.
Michelle Rose is a late-diagnosed autistic mother of 3 autistic children in Chester, England. Her husband is Kieran Rose, the Autistic Advocate. Michelle spent a dozen years mentoring and training thousands of small business owners to get started with the basics of their marketing via online marketing courses and mentoring in her own unique, friendly, and creative way of thinking about marketing. She homeschools two of her three children.
Topics Discussed (Transcript available on Spotify)
00:42 Introduction
03:39 AuDHD vs. ADHD or Autism
13:02 Self-Awareness After Late Diagnosis
22:33 Self-Diagnosis
27:07 Parent Grief, Love on the Spectrum and Imagining the Future
29:11 RFK, Defining a “Successful” Life
35:36 Homeschooling
38:48 Putting Autistic Joy First, Sensory Needs, Emotional Regulation, Creating Community
44:19 Seeing Examples of Neurodivergent Lifestyles, The Fear of Doing Things Differently
50:44 The Mindset Shift Towards “This is Enough”
52:28 The Next Generation of Compassionate Autistics
55:18 Doing the Best We Can Imperfectly in an Imperfect World
56:49 Wrap-Up
Resources
- Functioning labels discussion with Kieran Rose
- Dr. Monique Botha at Durham University
- Alternate Schooling Options podcast and Mara Linaberger microschools
- Meaning Making in Floortime
- Predictably Comforting Autistic Culture Podcast with guest Daria Brown
- The Autistic Culture Podcast
- The Autistic Advocate
A big “thank you” to this episode’s guests for agreeing to participate on the first edition of Autistic Moms Chatting. I hope that you found it a worthwhile listen. If so, please consider sharing it on social media!
Until next time, here’s to choosing play and experiencing joy every day!
Thank you to Los Angeles recording artist Soft Vein for the intro/outro song permission.
